WEBVTT 00:00.009 --> 00:01.731 Thanks very much . We'll go to 00:01.731 --> 00:03.787 questions starting with Bloomberg in 00:03.787 --> 00:06.009 the middle here in the front , please . 00:07.820 --> 00:09.987 Natalia , Josia from Bloomberg . Thank 00:09.987 --> 00:12.390 you so much for uh this question , Mr 00:12.399 --> 00:14.859 Sullivan , what's the plan B for uh for 00:14.869 --> 00:16.813 Washington's support for Ukraine ? 00:16.813 --> 00:18.980 We've heard repeatedly in the last few 00:18.980 --> 00:21.202 weeks and months that uh from the White 00:21.202 --> 00:22.869 House that this package would 00:22.869 --> 00:24.980 eventually get through Congress , but 00:24.980 --> 00:27.147 it keeps failing . Um I mean , what at 00:27.147 --> 00:29.091 what point do you start looking at 00:29.091 --> 00:31.425 alternatives ? And Mr Secretary General , 00:31.425 --> 00:33.689 I mean , what can NATO do if the US 00:33.700 --> 00:35.867 can't uh can't get this aid passed for 00:35.869 --> 00:38.250 Ukraine ? Thank you . So first , we're 00:38.259 --> 00:40.370 not focused on plan B . We're focused 00:40.370 --> 00:42.537 on plan A . We're focused on passing a 00:42.537 --> 00:45.509 bipartisan support package for Ukraine 00:45.520 --> 00:47.742 that will provide it with the tools and 00:47.742 --> 00:49.909 capabilities , it needs to continue to 00:49.909 --> 00:51.909 defend effectively and to take back 00:51.909 --> 00:53.687 territory that Russia currently 00:53.687 --> 00:55.631 occupies . Uh You've seen a lot of 00:55.639 --> 00:57.695 toing and froing in the Congress and 00:57.695 --> 00:59.806 I'm not going to get into the details 00:59.806 --> 01:02.028 of that , particularly standing here in 01:02.028 --> 01:04.195 Brussels . But what I will say is this 01:04.195 --> 01:06.417 even in the last 24 hours , you've seen 01:06.417 --> 01:06.099 a significant number of Republicans 01:06.110 --> 01:08.166 come out and say that no matter what 01:08.166 --> 01:10.730 else happens , we need to move forward 01:10.739 --> 01:12.850 a package of support for Ukraine . As 01:12.850 --> 01:14.683 President Biden said yesterday , 01:14.683 --> 01:17.059 history will record any failure to 01:17.069 --> 01:19.180 deliver the type of assistance that's 01:19.180 --> 01:21.291 contained in the package that was put 01:21.291 --> 01:23.513 forward this week . And we fully intend 01:23.513 --> 01:25.739 to drive to the point where that 01:25.750 --> 01:27.917 package passes both the Senate and the 01:27.917 --> 01:30.139 House and lands on the president's desk 01:30.139 --> 01:32.250 for signature at the end of the day , 01:32.250 --> 01:34.361 there is no alternative to the United 01:34.361 --> 01:36.361 States stepping up to the plate and 01:36.361 --> 01:38.361 providing a level of resources that 01:38.361 --> 01:40.472 allow Ukraine to have the artillery , 01:40.472 --> 01:42.583 the air defense systems and the other 01:42.583 --> 01:44.694 capabilities they need and time is of 01:44.694 --> 01:46.861 the essence in this regard . So we are 01:46.861 --> 01:48.917 going to stay focused on that and we 01:48.917 --> 01:50.861 believe that we still can and will 01:50.861 --> 01:53.510 deliver it . First of all , I think we 01:53.519 --> 01:55.519 need to recognize how important our 01:55.519 --> 01:57.741 support has been since the full fledged 01:57.741 --> 02:01.559 generation happened or took place in 02:01.569 --> 02:04.569 2022 . What we have seen is 02:04.580 --> 02:07.870 unprecedented support from allies and 02:07.879 --> 02:10.750 our support is making a difference on 02:10.759 --> 02:13.229 the battlefield every day . And it's 02:13.240 --> 02:15.589 the support from allies that has 02:15.600 --> 02:18.460 enabled and made it possible for 02:18.470 --> 02:21.270 Ukrainians to liberate 50% of the 02:21.279 --> 02:23.429 territory that the Russian forces 02:23.440 --> 02:25.750 occupied in the beginning of the war . 02:26.160 --> 02:28.350 It is our support that enabled the 02:28.360 --> 02:30.509 Ukrainians to open a corridor in the 02:30.520 --> 02:32.576 Black Sea , pushing back the Russian 02:32.576 --> 02:35.800 Black Sea fleet and also enable the 02:35.809 --> 02:38.929 Ukrainians to inflict heavy casualties 02:38.940 --> 02:42.389 on the Russian invaders . More than 02:42.399 --> 02:44.880 300,000 casualties . They lost 02:44.889 --> 02:47.770 thousands of armored vehicles and 02:47.779 --> 02:51.690 hundreds of aircraft . So the first 02:51.699 --> 02:54.300 message is that our support makes a 02:54.309 --> 02:57.279 difference . It really helps the 02:57.289 --> 03:01.179 Ukrainians to demonstrate that this was 03:01.190 --> 03:03.710 a big strategic mistake of President 03:03.720 --> 03:06.929 Putin to invade Ukraine . He believed 03:06.940 --> 03:08.940 that he was able to take control of 03:08.940 --> 03:11.720 Ukraine within days and now the war 03:11.729 --> 03:14.160 will soon move into its third year and 03:14.169 --> 03:16.002 the Ukrainians have been able to 03:16.002 --> 03:19.039 actually make important gains . That's 03:19.050 --> 03:21.259 the reason why it is important that 03:21.270 --> 03:24.289 support continues . And 03:24.309 --> 03:27.460 as national security adviser , Jake 03:27.470 --> 03:29.692 Sullivan just said , we are focusing on 03:29.692 --> 03:33.160 plan A and that is that all allies 03:33.190 --> 03:35.919 continue to support Ukraine . This is 03:35.929 --> 03:38.250 truly a joint effort by Europe and 03:38.259 --> 03:41.190 North America . We actually see burden 03:41.199 --> 03:43.199 sharing within the alliance when it 03:43.199 --> 03:46.259 comes to support to Ukraine . And I 03:46.270 --> 03:49.339 expect the US to make decisions in the 03:49.350 --> 03:51.889 future to continue to support Ukraine . 03:52.570 --> 03:54.737 Next question is Reuters in the second 03:54.737 --> 03:57.860 row , please . Andrew Gray from Reuters . 03:57.869 --> 03:59.702 A question for both of you . How 03:59.702 --> 04:01.925 concerned are you by President Zelensky 04:01.925 --> 04:04.289 decision to dismiss General Zalu at 04:04.300 --> 04:06.630 this critical time in the war ? And 04:06.639 --> 04:08.639 what does it say about the state of 04:08.649 --> 04:11.720 civil military relations in Ukraine ? 04:11.729 --> 04:14.000 Given that in most democracies , if a 04:14.009 --> 04:16.170 civilian leader had said that he no 04:16.179 --> 04:18.869 longer wanted a chief of staff in 04:18.880 --> 04:20.824 office , then that person would no 04:20.824 --> 04:23.730 longer be in the job . So I'll leave it 04:23.739 --> 04:25.850 to the Ukrainians to speak themselves 04:25.850 --> 04:28.200 to the question of the future of any 04:28.209 --> 04:30.098 one of their military personnel . 04:30.098 --> 04:31.987 That's a sovereign decision for a 04:31.987 --> 04:33.765 sovereign country to make . And 04:33.765 --> 04:35.987 obviously an elected leader has to make 04:35.987 --> 04:38.098 his choices about uh who occupies the 04:38.098 --> 04:40.098 upper rungs of the , you know , the 04:40.098 --> 04:42.265 military leadership . Uh All I can say 04:42.265 --> 04:44.042 is that from the United states' 04:44.042 --> 04:46.209 perspective , we are going to continue 04:46.209 --> 04:47.876 to support both the Ukrainian 04:47.876 --> 04:49.987 government and the Ukrainian military 04:49.987 --> 04:52.489 in their efforts uh to continue to get 04:52.500 --> 04:54.722 the kind of progress that the Secretary 04:54.722 --> 04:56.889 of General referenced . Uh but we will 04:56.889 --> 04:58.889 leave the decisions , the personnel 04:58.889 --> 05:00.944 decisions to the Ukrainians . That's 05:00.944 --> 05:03.167 not for us to decide from Washington or 05:03.167 --> 05:05.167 from here in Brussels . And I agree 05:05.167 --> 05:04.440 just , just to hold out , this is of 05:04.450 --> 05:07.000 course a Ukrainian uh uh decision . We , 05:07.010 --> 05:09.160 it's not for NATO to have any opinion 05:09.170 --> 05:11.489 about that , but I welcome the very 05:11.500 --> 05:13.722 clear statement from Minister Kole that 05:13.722 --> 05:15.833 any changes will not affect Ukraine's 05:15.833 --> 05:18.679 relationship with partners and with . 05:18.950 --> 05:21.579 So we will continue to support that's 05:21.589 --> 05:23.811 what matters and we will continue to do 05:23.811 --> 05:25.978 so . Next question from the Washington 05:25.978 --> 05:27.145 Post , please . Here 05:30.359 --> 05:32.299 uh Thank you uh for the National 05:32.309 --> 05:34.750 Security Advisor . Um Hungary promised 05:34.760 --> 05:36.929 not to be the last ally to ratify 05:36.940 --> 05:40.540 Sweden's um entry into NATO . And yet 05:40.549 --> 05:42.549 here we are , we still don't have a 05:42.549 --> 05:45.170 sense of when or if this will happen . 05:45.489 --> 05:47.880 Some us lawmakers have proposed uh 05:47.890 --> 05:49.820 tougher measures , potentially 05:49.829 --> 05:51.970 sanctions changes to visa rules for 05:51.980 --> 05:54.369 Hungary . I'm curious what specific 05:54.380 --> 05:56.102 measures the administration is 05:56.102 --> 05:58.213 considering , uh , to close this deal 05:58.480 --> 06:01.660 and , uh for the secretary-general same 06:01.670 --> 06:04.540 question , uh , essentially Hungary 06:04.549 --> 06:06.605 said it wouldn't be the last , it is 06:06.605 --> 06:08.771 the last . Can this alliance ? And can 06:08.771 --> 06:10.827 you still trust Hungary as an ally ? 06:10.827 --> 06:14.109 Thank you . So , first in the session 06:14.119 --> 06:15.952 today with the National Security 06:15.952 --> 06:17.952 Advisor , we heard security advisor 06:17.952 --> 06:20.008 after security advisor say that it's 06:20.008 --> 06:22.119 past time for Sweden to get in and to 06:22.119 --> 06:24.119 directly address the representative 06:24.119 --> 06:26.119 from , from Hungary to say indeed , 06:26.119 --> 06:28.690 they are the last and it's um you know , 06:28.700 --> 06:30.867 a matter of credibility and obligation 06:30.867 --> 06:33.140 that they take the necessary steps uh 06:33.149 --> 06:35.549 to complete the parliamentary process 06:35.579 --> 06:38.489 so that NATO can in fact welcome Sweden 06:38.500 --> 06:42.350 as the 32nd member . We see a 06:42.359 --> 06:44.809 path forward for that . Um Of course , 06:44.820 --> 06:46.820 we're staying in close consultation 06:46.820 --> 06:49.042 with Sweden who sees a path forward for 06:49.042 --> 06:51.153 that . So I'm not going to stand here 06:51.153 --> 06:53.209 today and make particular threats or 06:53.209 --> 06:55.376 speculations about steps we would take 06:55.376 --> 06:57.542 down the road . But of course , uh our 06:57.542 --> 06:59.542 patience on this can't be unlimited 06:59.542 --> 07:01.709 either . Uh So we'll continue to watch 07:01.709 --> 07:04.160 it carefully but hope that there is a 07:04.170 --> 07:06.359 constructive resolution to this issue 07:06.609 --> 07:10.470 in the very near term . I spoke with 07:10.480 --> 07:12.591 the Prime Minister Erdogan a few days 07:12.591 --> 07:15.899 ago and he made it very clear that he 07:15.910 --> 07:19.630 strongly support Swedish membership of 07:19.640 --> 07:22.700 the alliance . It is also clear that 07:23.089 --> 07:26.790 the Hungarian Parliament is 07:26.799 --> 07:28.743 not in session now , but they will 07:28.743 --> 07:32.200 reconvene at the end of February and 07:32.600 --> 07:34.656 the message was that soon after that 07:34.656 --> 07:37.890 they will make a decision on , on 07:37.899 --> 07:40.880 ratification of Sweden . So I expect 07:40.890 --> 07:42.946 that Sweden will be a full member in 07:42.946 --> 07:45.920 the near future . We have to remember 07:45.929 --> 07:48.730 that what we have seen since February 07:48.739 --> 07:52.290 2022 is one of the fastest 07:53.130 --> 07:55.352 accession processes in nato's history . 07:55.989 --> 07:59.920 Finland and Sweden applied in May 2022 07:59.929 --> 08:02.510 in July . They were both invited . Then 08:02.519 --> 08:05.440 Finland become a full member uh in 08:05.450 --> 08:08.040 April last year and I expect then 08:08.049 --> 08:10.489 Sweden to be a member very soon that 08:10.500 --> 08:12.389 demonstrate that NATO is not only 08:12.389 --> 08:14.278 getting stronger but NATO is also 08:14.278 --> 08:16.579 getting bigger . Uh Finan uh old a 08:16.589 --> 08:19.750 member and Sweden uh very soon time for 08:19.760 --> 08:21.927 just one or two more . We'll go to the 08:21.927 --> 08:24.204 Telegraph Place here in the second row . 08:26.470 --> 08:28.414 Thank you Jo Barnes from the Daily 08:28.414 --> 08:30.692 Telegraph to National Security Adviser , 08:30.692 --> 08:32.914 Tucker Carlson is about to broadcast an 08:32.914 --> 08:35.137 interview with Vladimir Putin . We know 08:35.137 --> 08:37.359 Tucker Carlson is highly critical of us 08:37.359 --> 08:39.526 Western support for Ukraine . What are 08:39.526 --> 08:41.581 you going to do to be countering the 08:41.581 --> 08:43.803 message that he puts out at a time when 08:43.803 --> 08:43.719 you have your own struggles with 08:43.729 --> 08:45.896 Congress ? And there's lots of sort of 08:45.896 --> 08:49.210 doubt amongst Western political bodies 08:49.219 --> 08:51.450 parliaments over whether we should 08:51.460 --> 08:53.682 carry on supporting Ukraine in the long 08:53.682 --> 08:56.190 term . And I guess one for both of you , 08:57.409 --> 08:59.631 Ukraine , this week's announced a stand 08:59.631 --> 09:01.520 alone drone force which puts some 09:01.520 --> 09:05.179 emphasis on unmanned and unconventional 09:05.190 --> 09:07.840 capabilities . NATO and its allies have 09:07.849 --> 09:10.489 been focused on ramping up production 09:10.719 --> 09:12.650 for conventional warfare . So , 09:12.659 --> 09:15.559 artillery shells and air interceptors , 09:15.570 --> 09:17.459 et cetera , are we capable of now 09:17.459 --> 09:19.799 moving that to support Ukraine's wishes 09:19.809 --> 09:21.976 to create a sort of a drone led army ? 09:21.976 --> 09:25.609 Thank you just your second question . 09:25.619 --> 09:27.841 Um And very interested to hear what the 09:27.841 --> 09:30.008 Secretary General has to say as well . 09:30.008 --> 09:31.841 But uh I mentioned in my opening 09:31.841 --> 09:33.841 comments that uh moving our defense 09:33.841 --> 09:36.200 industrial base forward has to be about 09:36.750 --> 09:38.694 just traditional production of the 09:38.694 --> 09:41.780 basics like 155 artillery shells . But 09:41.789 --> 09:44.159 it also has to be about the modern 09:44.169 --> 09:46.780 technologies that we are seeing adapt 09:46.789 --> 09:48.900 and evolve on the battlefield in real 09:48.900 --> 09:51.710 time in this war . A few weeks ago , I 09:51.719 --> 09:53.830 hosted at the White House a series of 09:53.830 --> 09:55.775 technology companies in the United 09:55.775 --> 09:58.380 States who are working on uh unmanned 09:58.390 --> 10:02.169 aerial systems , counter UAs systems uh 10:02.179 --> 10:05.010 and other advanced technologies and 10:05.020 --> 10:07.289 technological capabilities that could 10:07.299 --> 10:09.355 be relevant to the future of warfare 10:09.355 --> 10:12.090 and that have to be part of uh you know , 10:12.099 --> 10:14.099 the planning and the posture of the 10:14.099 --> 10:16.377 United States and of the NATO Alliance . 10:16.377 --> 10:18.599 We have confidence that we have all the 10:18.599 --> 10:20.766 tools necessary to do this . We are on 10:20.766 --> 10:23.479 the technological cutting edge . Uh We 10:23.489 --> 10:26.229 have the best companies in the world 10:26.239 --> 10:28.461 and we have public private partnerships 10:28.461 --> 10:30.517 that can do this work . Now , it's a 10:30.517 --> 10:32.183 matter of getting all of that 10:32.183 --> 10:34.350 integrated and moving it forward . But 10:34.350 --> 10:34.090 I believe that that can be done and 10:34.099 --> 10:36.440 should be a central priority . As , as 10:36.450 --> 10:38.506 I noted in my opening remarks , with 10:38.506 --> 10:40.728 respect to this interview , we've heard 10:40.728 --> 10:42.880 voices in the United States in Europe 10:42.890 --> 10:45.729 elsewhere around the world . Uh casting 10:45.739 --> 10:47.683 doubt or casting aspersions on our 10:47.683 --> 10:49.906 collective support for Ukraine from the 10:49.906 --> 10:52.017 day this war started . In fact , even 10:52.017 --> 10:54.128 before this war started , and we have 10:54.128 --> 10:56.183 consistently made the case about why 10:56.183 --> 10:58.295 standing up and supporting Ukraine is 10:58.295 --> 11:00.350 in the fundamental national security 11:00.350 --> 11:02.406 interest of the United States and of 11:02.406 --> 11:04.350 the transatlantic alliance . And I 11:04.350 --> 11:06.239 believe that we have continued to 11:06.239 --> 11:08.183 prevail in that argument that vast 11:08.183 --> 11:10.406 majority of the American people see the 11:10.406 --> 11:12.461 merit in that in a strong bipartisan 11:12.461 --> 11:14.572 group of senators and representatives 11:14.572 --> 11:16.799 have continued to support uh Ukraine 11:16.809 --> 11:18.865 and continue to believe in that . So 11:18.865 --> 11:20.809 we're going to stay the course and 11:20.809 --> 11:22.865 we're going to continue to point out 11:22.865 --> 11:24.920 that uh walking away from Ukraine at 11:24.920 --> 11:26.809 this moment at this time would be 11:26.809 --> 11:30.349 fundamentally um wrong from the point 11:30.359 --> 11:32.570 of view of our basic national security 11:32.580 --> 11:34.750 in the United States and for our NATO 11:34.760 --> 11:36.871 allies as well . And we think we will 11:36.871 --> 11:38.982 continue to win that argument because 11:38.982 --> 11:40.871 we have the truth on our side . I 11:40.871 --> 11:43.179 welcome the efforts to modernize the 11:43.190 --> 11:45.849 Ukrainian armed Forces in the midst of 11:45.859 --> 11:48.599 war aggression by Russia against 11:48.609 --> 11:50.831 Ukraine . And that includes of course , 11:50.831 --> 11:53.869 everything they do to invest more and 11:53.880 --> 11:57.099 to produce more drones . These efforts 11:57.109 --> 11:59.150 are conducted with the support of 12:00.119 --> 12:03.169 allies . I think it also demonstrates 12:03.179 --> 12:05.869 the importance of working with Ukraine 12:05.880 --> 12:09.390 to ramp up also their industrial base 12:09.630 --> 12:12.130 because this is now a war of attrition 12:12.140 --> 12:14.362 and a war of attrition becomes a war of 12:14.362 --> 12:16.429 logistics . And then it depends very 12:16.440 --> 12:18.770 much on the production capacity also 12:18.780 --> 12:21.559 when it comes to modern systems . Like 12:21.570 --> 12:25.520 for instance , drones , then 12:25.830 --> 12:28.150 I think we need to remember that drones 12:28.159 --> 12:29.826 have played an important role 12:29.826 --> 12:32.469 throughout this war . And the allies 12:32.479 --> 12:34.590 have also provided support throughout 12:34.590 --> 12:37.950 the war . For instance , Turkey has 12:37.960 --> 12:40.140 provided the Barakat drones since 12:40.150 --> 12:42.849 actually before the full scale invasion . 12:43.140 --> 12:46.599 And now they are now establishing a 12:46.609 --> 12:49.849 new factory to produce drones , which 12:49.859 --> 12:51.803 is then a Turkish drone factory in 12:51.803 --> 12:54.260 Ukraine . And that's one example of 12:54.270 --> 12:57.789 many how allies are supporting 12:57.799 --> 13:00.239 Ukraine with direct deliveries of 13:00.250 --> 13:02.306 weapons and ammunition , but also by 13:02.306 --> 13:05.030 investing in and ramping up their 13:05.039 --> 13:07.739 capacity to produce their own weapons . 13:08.239 --> 13:10.072 Lastly , I think that we need to 13:10.072 --> 13:13.109 recognize that the war in Ukraine is a 13:13.119 --> 13:15.559 challenge because it is a combination 13:15.570 --> 13:18.599 of first world war trench warfare 13:18.609 --> 13:21.109 combined with modern technology from 13:21.119 --> 13:23.900 the 21st century , including drones . 13:23.909 --> 13:26.020 And that's exactly the challenge that 13:26.020 --> 13:28.242 we are addressing together with Ukraine 13:28.242 --> 13:30.353 by providing support to them . Time . 13:30.353 --> 13:32.409 For one final question , we'll go to 13:32.409 --> 13:34.419 fats in row four . Thanks a lot for 13:34.429 --> 13:37.719 this to Zeitung . I have a question to 13:37.729 --> 13:39.951 both of you . There's an ongoing debate 13:39.951 --> 13:42.173 here in Europe whether European nations 13:42.173 --> 13:44.690 are doing enough in terms of military 13:44.700 --> 13:47.890 support for Ukraine . Clearly , those 13:47.900 --> 13:50.067 at the eastern flank are spending much 13:50.070 --> 13:53.280 more both in absolute numbers and also 13:53.289 --> 13:57.020 in share of their GDP than nations in 13:57.030 --> 14:01.030 the South . So many people in this 14:01.039 --> 14:03.261 city point to , for instance , France , 14:03.261 --> 14:06.690 Spain and Italy as not spending enough . 14:07.919 --> 14:10.750 How do you view this ? And would you be 14:10.760 --> 14:14.150 in favor of setting a percentage of 14:14.159 --> 14:17.260 GDP for military 14:17.270 --> 14:19.710 support in favor of Ukraine ? Thank you 14:21.789 --> 14:24.500 from our perspective . Uh The overall 14:24.510 --> 14:27.640 picture of allied burden sharing and 14:27.650 --> 14:29.761 allied contributions to Ukraine looks 14:29.761 --> 14:32.070 quite healthy . The United States has 14:32.080 --> 14:34.500 come in with a huge contribution over 14:34.510 --> 14:36.770 the past two years , but so have a lot 14:36.780 --> 14:38.724 of European partners and the total 14:38.724 --> 14:40.613 European support including on the 14:40.613 --> 14:42.780 defense side has been robust and far 14:42.789 --> 14:44.956 beyond what I think anybody would have 14:44.956 --> 14:46.789 expected when this began . Now . 14:46.789 --> 14:49.011 Obviously , there are differences among 14:49.011 --> 14:51.178 different countries . I'm not going to 14:51.178 --> 14:50.859 stand here and speak about any one 14:50.869 --> 14:54.080 country . Um But I think that the 14:54.090 --> 14:57.650 formula that we have right now uh led 14:57.659 --> 14:59.950 by Secretary Austin through the 14:59.960 --> 15:02.950 Ramstein process , the U DC G is 15:02.960 --> 15:05.619 generating the kinds of contributions 15:05.630 --> 15:08.030 that we would like to see . And some of 15:08.039 --> 15:11.239 the major limitations are not actually 15:11.250 --> 15:13.583 about people stepping up with resources . 15:13.583 --> 15:15.639 It is about these defense industrial 15:15.639 --> 15:17.694 base issues that , that we were just 15:17.694 --> 15:19.694 talking about . So I'll leave it to 15:19.694 --> 15:21.917 others to have the debate about whether 15:21.917 --> 15:24.194 any given country should be doing more . 15:24.194 --> 15:25.972 And I don't know that we need a 15:25.972 --> 15:27.972 mechanical formula as long as we're 15:27.972 --> 15:30.139 getting the overall kinds of resources 15:30.139 --> 15:32.139 that are necessary . Of course , we 15:32.139 --> 15:34.361 always want to see more and we're going 15:34.361 --> 15:34.049 to countries and saying , hey , there's 15:34.059 --> 15:36.226 a particular capability and we need to 15:36.226 --> 15:38.170 fill this hole and you've got it , 15:38.170 --> 15:40.392 please give it . So don't misunderstand 15:40.392 --> 15:42.559 me , we're constantly egging countries 15:42.559 --> 15:44.726 on and encouraging them to do more and 15:44.726 --> 15:46.892 challenging ourselves to do the same . 15:46.892 --> 15:49.280 Uh But I , I do want to reinforce that 15:49.780 --> 15:51.780 the coalition of countries that has 15:51.780 --> 15:53.836 come together to support Ukraine has 15:53.836 --> 15:55.836 moved fast and has moved big and we 15:55.836 --> 15:58.058 just need to keep that up and where are 15:58.058 --> 16:00.058 there specific gaps we need to fill 16:00.058 --> 16:02.849 them . And again , I agree , I think 16:02.859 --> 16:04.803 that what we have seen is actually 16:04.803 --> 16:06.960 really burden sharing in practice 16:06.969 --> 16:09.719 demonstrated by European allies and 16:09.729 --> 16:12.570 North America together . And especially 16:12.580 --> 16:15.299 if on top of the military support where 16:15.309 --> 16:17.531 the US has played a leading role . Also 16:17.531 --> 16:19.698 add the economic and financial support 16:19.698 --> 16:21.809 where European allies and Canada have 16:21.809 --> 16:25.429 played the most important role . If you 16:25.440 --> 16:27.496 take all that together , it's really 16:27.496 --> 16:30.309 burden sharing across the alliance . 16:31.049 --> 16:33.299 Of course , we address what each and 16:33.309 --> 16:36.580 every ally can do both within but also 16:36.590 --> 16:40.419 within the Ramstein format where the 16:40.429 --> 16:43.299 US led contact group for Ukraine is 16:43.309 --> 16:45.476 actually going through different lists 16:45.476 --> 16:47.365 of specific requirements . We are 16:47.365 --> 16:50.340 asking allies to do more . So we always 16:50.349 --> 16:52.405 would like allies to do more and not 16:52.405 --> 16:54.559 least sustain what they are committed 16:54.570 --> 16:58.080 to do . And that's the main message 16:58.090 --> 17:00.630 today is that we must sustain our 17:00.640 --> 17:02.862 support and that's a responsibility for 17:02.862 --> 17:04.918 all allies that concludes this press 17:04.918 --> 17:08.000 point . Thank you very much control .